Comments on: ERP Software Clash of the Titans: SAP vs. Oracle http://panorama-consulting.com/erp-software-clash-of-the-titans-sap-vs-oracle/ Insight. Momentum. Results. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:07:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: satya vetsahttp://panorama-consulting.com/erp-software-clash-of-the-titans-sap-vs-oracle/comment-page-1/#comment-3506 satya vetsa Wed, 21 Dec 2011 06:59:54 +0000 http://panorama-consulting.com/?p=5751#comment-3506 Few helpful points in the comparision of both the ERPs: 1. Run a 'strategy to execution' scenarios of the business critical processes in both the ERP Products.Find out how much time it takes for each process chain - for example to O2C, P2P,R2R. 2.Make few site visits or gather experiences from the similar industry with matchin size/scale/geography who have implemented these ERP Products. 3.The statistics on the bugs/ short comings in each prodcut (i think the competitor will give the insight :-) ) May be after few years of successful implementatoin both ERP may give the similar results in day to day operations. However the cost of implementation / business benefits will determine the the true sucess. I completely agree with Eric on the advantage of SAP w.r.t Business Benfits / Tight integration. Few helpful points in the comparision of both the ERPs:

1. Run a ‘strategy to execution’ scenarios of the business critical processes in both the ERP Products.Find out how much time it takes for each process chain – for example to O2C, P2P,R2R.

2.Make few site visits or gather experiences from the similar industry with matchin size/scale/geography who have implemented these ERP Products.

3.The statistics on the bugs/ short comings in each prodcut (i think the competitor will give the insight :-) )

May be after few years of successful implementatoin both ERP may give the similar results in day to day operations.

However the cost of implementation / business benefits will determine the the true sucess. I completely agree with Eric on the advantage of SAP w.r.t Business Benfits / Tight integration.

]]> By: Binoyhttp://panorama-consulting.com/erp-software-clash-of-the-titans-sap-vs-oracle/comment-page-1/#comment-2491 Binoy Fri, 13 May 2011 11:59:03 +0000 http://panorama-consulting.com/?p=5751#comment-2491 Eric, Thanks for the good insights. Really useful inputs for a comparative analysis. I would like to introduce the aspect of resource availability and resource costs. Though it has been touched tangentially, the higher implementation costs have a considerable contribution from high hourly rate resource costs for these two top-shot ERP skilled professionals. Eric,

Thanks for the good insights. Really useful inputs for a comparative analysis. I would like to introduce the aspect of resource availability and resource costs. Though it has been touched tangentially, the higher implementation costs have a considerable contribution from high hourly rate resource costs for these two top-shot ERP skilled professionals.

]]> By: Jackhttp://panorama-consulting.com/erp-software-clash-of-the-titans-sap-vs-oracle/comment-page-1/#comment-2059 Jack Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:08:38 +0000 http://panorama-consulting.com/?p=5751#comment-2059 We use Oracle EBS 11.5.10 in our company. I can't compare it with SAP because I have no experience with the latter but I can say Oracle EBS has a steep learning curve. I imagine the same is true for SAP. We have management here in our company who was not in favor or Oracle EBS. They favored an offering from Microsoft like Great Plains. However, from your article above it seems that only Oracle EBS and SAP are a good fit for multi-national corporations and this is the type of company I work for. We have business operations in America, Europe, and Asia and we deal with lots of different currencies. I believe the choice our CEO made was the correct one but I often have to deal with nay sayers who argue Microsoft's solutions would have been better. Of course no one is going to spend a million dollars to implement a Microsoft solution just to prove they are wrong so I guess I will have to live with their complaints. We use Oracle EBS 11.5.10 in our company. I can’t compare it with SAP because I have no experience with the latter but I can say Oracle EBS has a steep learning curve. I imagine the same is true for SAP. We have management here in our company who was not in favor or Oracle EBS. They favored an offering from Microsoft like Great Plains. However, from your article above it seems that only Oracle EBS and SAP are a good fit for multi-national corporations and this is the type of company I work for. We have business operations in America, Europe, and Asia and we deal with lots of different currencies. I believe the choice our CEO made was the correct one but I often have to deal with nay sayers who argue Microsoft’s solutions would have been better. Of course no one is going to spend a million dollars to implement a Microsoft solution just to prove they are wrong so I guess I will have to live with their complaints.

]]> By: John Smithhttp://panorama-consulting.com/erp-software-clash-of-the-titans-sap-vs-oracle/comment-page-1/#comment-959 John Smith Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:03:11 +0000 http://panorama-consulting.com/?p=5751#comment-959 Eric, Thanks for getting it out there that there is no 'best' solution. Even within the same industry / revenue band. Panorama can serve a real need by providing balanced information to the clients they represent. I come from the Oracle camp and wanted to comment on a couple of your summarized comparisons above. The idea that SAP has grown organically and that Oracle has grown thru acquisition is the standard elevator pitch response. The reality is that SAP has made over 30 acquisitions since 2000. You specifically give the example of Oracle Hyperion for financial reporting vs. SAP home built. Are you implying that SAP is not selling the financial reporting tools of the three companies it acquired Outlooksoft, Business Objects and Pilot? These three acquired products make up SAP’s financial reporting backbone. You compare SAP CRM vs acquired Oracle Seibel CRM. An apples to apples comparison would be SAP CRM to Oracle EBS CRM. In which case both vendors have an 'organic' offering. For companies that have heavy CRM needs neither ERP based CRM package is adequate. Of the tens of thousands of SAP CRM licenses sold SAP cannot show over 10% of those actually in use. Over 50% of Seibel’s customer base runs SAP ERP is an idication that Seibel is on a higher tier than ERP based CRM and should not be compared directly. I am not trying to start a bashing session here or flame war. I read this blog to get a balanced view and wanted to help get some facts out there. Thank You. Eric,

Thanks for getting it out there that there is no ‘best’ solution. Even within the same industry / revenue band. Panorama can serve a real need by providing balanced information to the clients they represent.

I come from the Oracle camp and wanted to comment on a couple of your summarized comparisons above.
The idea that SAP has grown organically and that Oracle has grown thru acquisition is the standard elevator pitch response. The reality is that SAP has made over 30 acquisitions since 2000.

You specifically give the example of Oracle Hyperion for financial reporting vs. SAP home built. Are you implying that SAP is not selling the financial reporting tools of the three companies it acquired Outlooksoft, Business Objects and Pilot? These three acquired products make up SAP’s financial reporting backbone.

You compare SAP CRM vs acquired Oracle Seibel CRM. An apples to apples comparison would be SAP CRM to Oracle EBS CRM. In which case both vendors have an ‘organic’ offering. For companies that have heavy CRM needs neither ERP based CRM package is adequate. Of the tens of thousands of SAP CRM licenses sold SAP cannot show over 10% of those actually in use. Over 50% of Seibel’s customer base runs SAP ERP is an idication that Seibel is on a higher tier than ERP based CRM and should not be compared directly.

I am not trying to start a bashing session here or flame war. I read this blog to get a balanced view and wanted to help get some facts out there.
Thank You.

]]> By: Gabriel Gheorghiuhttp://panorama-consulting.com/erp-software-clash-of-the-titans-sap-vs-oracle/comment-page-1/#comment-958 Gabriel Gheorghiu Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:49:39 +0000 http://panorama-consulting.com/?p=5751#comment-958 Why do some companies come to you to compare SAP and Oracle? is it because they did a thorough selection process and this is their short list or simply because these are considered to be the best ERP vendors in the world and your customers want the best for their company? From my experience, many companies wanting to implement Oracle or SAP realize that Infor, Epicor or other products are the best fit for their needs (and budget). A while ago, someone told me that some executives from large companies choose to implement Oracle or SAP so they can put it in their CV for the next job. Why do some companies come to you to compare SAP and Oracle? is it because they did a thorough selection process and this is their short list or simply because these are considered to be the best ERP vendors in the world and your customers want the best for their company?

From my experience, many companies wanting to implement Oracle or SAP realize that Infor, Epicor or other products are the best fit for their needs (and budget). A while ago, someone told me that some executives from large companies choose to implement Oracle or SAP so they can put it in their CV for the next job.

]]> By: Sergey Chumakhttp://panorama-consulting.com/erp-software-clash-of-the-titans-sap-vs-oracle/comment-page-1/#comment-954 Sergey Chumak Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:34:44 +0000 http://panorama-consulting.com/?p=5751#comment-954 The article just confirms that there is not purely black or white as no exact answer what is the best, because of business circumstances and priorities. I would say, that selection process should fit to companies' IT strategy and the company should focus on developing and preserving standartization of business processes supported by competencies of ERP users regardless of ERP name. Kind regards, Sergey The article just confirms that there is not purely black or white as no exact answer what is the best, because of business circumstances and priorities. I would say, that selection process should fit to companies’ IT strategy and the company should focus on developing and preserving standartization of business processes supported by competencies of ERP users regardless of ERP name.

Kind regards,
Sergey

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